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Nova Scotia

what were wallace's bench mark's day 10, 20, 30 ect. for his 2009?

7/26/2013 11:45:54 AM

Bellevue, Ohio

set 6/17
7/15 337
7/22 617
7/29 884
8/5 1166
8/12 1429
8/19 1615
8/26 1754
9/2 1852
9/9 1917
9/18 1969
ended 456 ott

7/26/2013 2:38:31 PM

Princeton Kentucky

No Pressure

7/26/2013 2:53:43 PM

Eastern Pennsylvania

Good lord when I saw 7/15 337 I thought you meant OTT until I got to the next date.

7/26/2013 3:50:34 PM

Central NY

Wtf....I quit....884 at the end of July!!?.....i give up....

7/26/2013 4:21:15 PM

Central NY

.....no I don't...

7/26/2013 4:21:25 PM

Central NY

Pretty amazing.....

7/26/2013 4:21:39 PM

Nova Scotia

teeheehee

7/26/2013 4:36:27 PM

NE Kansas

My bench just broke...

7/26/2013 5:46:17 PM

Rhode Island

believe me folks you to can accomplish whatever you set your sights on. work at it. research,educate whenever possible.
my best to everyone --- next year we are shooting for another pb.gonna take a huge effort though.not to mention a few other things like weather,weather,weather.

pap

7/26/2013 6:08:10 PM

So. Maine

Weather. weather . weather has not been a positive for a lot of growers this season .

7/26/2013 8:58:33 PM

Albert County, New Brunswick,CANADA

Pumpkins in the low teens and up will still create a lot of buzz in my neighborhood,and if I didn't get such great feedback, I'd have moved on. Winning can be defined in many ways. Aim high and sometimes it will pay off, as opposed to not trying.

7/27/2013 4:34:52 AM

Rhode Island

a big pumpkin is still a big pumpkin,be it 1,000,500 or 1500 plus.

i never in my wildest dreams thought we would get to 1500 much less 2000 lbs. now we are thinking even larger? i did not think a few years ago this was possible.
boy was i wrong.

pap

7/27/2013 8:10:50 AM

Nova Scotia

hahahah

7/27/2013 11:34:28 AM

BC, Canada

Pap
your comments are always insightful and helpful.
very generous with your advice and help


thanks

7/27/2013 1:27:36 PM

Torrance, Ca.

Yea Pap, thanks for all your wisdom ;)

7/27/2013 2:46:52 PM

Farming- a bunch of catastrophies that result in a lifestyle

OMG.
I'm going to be so tickled to make 300 pounds.....and I think the Egg and "C" are going to do that easy.

7/27/2013 5:16:16 PM

Nova Scotia

I should say thanks pap. The last half of your growth will be harder to beat.

7/27/2013 6:27:13 PM

From july 15 to aug. 12 that was 39 lbs. a day for 28 days!

7/27/2013 9:04:47 PM

Winston Salem, NC

Ditto, I was blown away by how the front side of the numbers almost directly line up with the 1400 lb benchmarks and then BOOM! It just goes out of control. The Wallace's know how to pack on those mid and late season pounds.

7/27/2013 10:37:31 PM

Canton Ohio

Forchlorfenuron

7/28/2013 7:22:42 AM

Little-TON - Colorado

Hard workZ, OrganiZation and a never ending search forZ knowledge .....iZ more like it...

7/29/2013 9:50:56 AM

NE Kansas

The results of a growth hormone are a lie.

7/29/2013 10:15:28 AM

Nova Scotia

I've had success with it, in some ways, I know of at least 1 record set using the stuff.

7/29/2013 12:28:34 PM

NE Kansas

This is short-sighted. The seeds from that pumpkin will not carry a genetic code that duplicates the results. This is where the truth comes out;that it is a one hit wonder. Recipients of seeds from that pumpkin will be dissapointed because they have been cheated. There is literally no future in that type of venture. Those who care enough about growing will stick to hard work and gardening skill so that they can pass it on to others to share in the benefit. Otherwise it is selfish greed.

7/29/2013 2:51:18 PM

Nova Scotia

lol. show me one athlete not on steroids and I will show you one near the bottom of his field.

Now for seeds, with the exception of Christina harps 1725 I know of no record pumpkin that has ever grown bigger than their parent pumpkin.

7/29/2013 7:52:18 PM

NE Kansas

Steroids and no basic math skills...
You will get the results you deserve.

7/29/2013 11:24:00 PM

Nova Scotia

Unfortunately my results will never be great out of this garden, that's why I experiment out of it. So I can help those that have good gardens and also those whom I like achieve greater goals, which I have.

Who have you helped? with your critical, self opinionated and I assume uneducated sphincter. I base this on your unfounded math quip. Feel free to Google quip or any other word so you understand what I'm saying. lol

7/30/2013 6:12:23 AM

NE Kansas

Criticism is only bad if it is insulting, which I did not do.

I know that I do not stand alone in this opinion.

As to education; knowledge alone is no substitute for wisdom.

7/30/2013 8:02:05 AM

Germany

"The results of a growth hormone are a lie." Basically, it would mean that simply everything is a lie, because all pumpkin growth is based on growth hormones, isn´t it? Well, one could argue that this sentence had been posted in a sense of "The results of ADDITIONAL growth hormones are a lie.", but where do we have to draw a line between the significance of amounts added? What I am pointing at is, that I cannot agree with this sentence "Recipients of seeds from that pumpkin will be dissapointed because they have been cheated.", because this pumpkin has been proven to have the potential to grow to that size with the methods and skills and gadgets available. The genetics in the seeds of such a pumpkin could have the potential to grow similar fruit under similar conditions again and again. Other growers use kelp to feed their plants. Can we be 100% sure there isn´t any beneficial growth hormones effect in those cases? Would that imply one had to call the other growers cheaters as well, just because they are using kelp in their pumpkins´ diet? Just trying to look at the "This is short-sighted." from a different angle. Would be happy to see some opionions from some more growers here.

7/30/2013 8:23:38 AM

NE Kansas

Yes, to clarify. That is exactly what I was implying; results that are additional. Unless the other growers know to duplicate the conditions with the same hormones. I do believe that this is distinct from any other types of gardening additives. Hormones in organic matter are in a naturally occurring form, regardless of how much of the hormone is present. Kelp, for instance, builds your soil biology. A growth hormone applied directly to the fruit does not.

Do you think that those who competed against Lance Armstrong did not feel cheated? Did he not lie? Are ethics different in gardening? This is why it is short-sighted.

7/30/2013 9:02:54 AM

Germany

Yep, I can clearly see your point, and the Lance Armstrong comparison definitely underlines what you are saying. Going a bit further, I need to point at a slightly different situation, which is weigh-offs with pumpkins from greenhouses and with outdoor pumpkins. In some parts of the world it probably wouldn´t matter a hell of a lot, but in other parts of the world one could as well argue that the heavy pumpkins grown in greenhouses are sort of cheating, because other people at the same weigh-off attend with fruit grown outdoors, some 100 lbs less on the scales, but perhaps the same (or better) genetic potential. So what, if we obtain seeds from small and from big pumpkins and don´t receive the information as to which pumpkin has been grown outdoor and which has been grown under greenhouse conditions, wouldn´t that also create a different view on the genetic potential in the seeds? No additional hormones, but artificially improved environmental conditions, which, in the "Lance Armstrong mirror" would reflect a clean guy but riding the bike a detour with less ups and downs.

7/30/2013 9:47:16 AM

Germany

The solution to the genetics problem is probably pretty simple: Obtain the seeds you want to grow. Nobody is forced to grow a particular seed. (Usually growers pay particular attention on where they get their seeds from.) As to cheating, the reverse case could also apply: Let´s just imagine a great grower is growing a pumpkin (an absolutely great cross) under miserable conditions (small patch, just to grow a genetics plant) and has a fruit of maybe 300 lbs, and only the insiders ask for seeds, whereas other growers don´t bubble that particular grower for one or two of the 300lbs pumpkin seeds. After three months the grower is running out of seeds, and then the insiders will grow monsters of that cross...and all the others feel cheated, because they did not ask for seeds, because the 300 lbs pumpkin has not revealed the true potential of its genetics, but now those proven seeds aren´t available any longer. Is the "genetics pumpkins strategy" some kind of cheating?

7/30/2013 9:47:23 AM

Germany

Well, I probably don´t have problems with other people using growth hormones, because I think they create additional troubles for their plants and might have grown even bigger and better pumpkins without the additional loads of hormones (and it is their problem that they end up with the result they obtain from that plant and cannot show what else could have been grown on the plant under different conditions).
Think positive ;-)

7/30/2013 9:51:45 AM

NE Kansas

The greenhouse theory still falls within ethical boundaries. It is merely duplicating something that occures naturally on earth. Even hydroponics to a degree falls within those boundaries. All of this still requires considerable skill. I doubt any greenhouse grower will tell you that have fewer problems, it just transfers to a different set of issues. But nowhere do you find the artificial use of steroids duplicated in nature. We are responsible for doing our own research on seeds source to the same degree that the supplier is responsible for source transparency. All of these things require a high degree of skill in many areas. Steroid use on the other hand, whether defined as cheating either by specific rules or merely ethics, augments a deficiency in both the environment and the person.

7/30/2013 10:08:26 AM

NE Kansas

Mr T: Every pumpkin that becomes a world record must of necessity grow bigger than it's parent pumpkin. That fact is prerequisite to being the largest pumpkin. Basic math, not an unfounded quip. I learned that in first grade, long before Google came to exist. As for my sphincter; throwing insults shows that you have run out of credible argument.

7/30/2013 12:34:13 PM

BC, Canada

Oh NO! I can see it now-
"Newsflash: World pumpkin weigh offs 2020; Lance Vinestrong has had his 1st place medal taken away after testing, he is being accused of Xylem doping. Mr. Vinestrong could not be reached for comment as he is hiding somewhere inside his 3 ton pumpkin."

7/30/2013 2:08:29 PM

Germany

Now Mr.T , put your cards on the table : " I know of at least 1 record set using the stuff "
Which one ?
As long as nobody confirms that , I think the benefits of artificial growth hormones in AG are much smaller as the resulting problems

7/30/2013 2:55:43 PM

Germany

@ Benny: Good to see that you share my opinion.
@ cavitysearch: LOL :-)

7/30/2013 4:01:53 PM

Nova Scotia

to clarify for you nelson. all pumpkins grown directly from seeds of a record pumpkin never grow bigger than the record. except for harps pumpkin. Now next generation seeds crossed on something new will.

Benny as for the other record, my client for now wishes to remain anonyms. in part to self righteous beaten complainers. He may allow me to reveal after this year. A week ago he was 301" ott at day 30. but still early in the game.

7/30/2013 4:48:06 PM

NE Kansas

Still no credibility and yet with insults.

7/30/2013 6:49:33 PM

Nova Scotia

so you tell someone they have "no basic math skills" is not insulting? Due to the fact you either misread my post or failed to understand it.

Well this is enough wasting my time on ignorance. I will not look into this post again.

7/30/2013 7:51:57 PM

Upa Creek, MO

After seeing your diary, Clubber Lang, I would not mess with that growth hormone stuff. Human males get little balls and bad hearts, pumpkins become deformed. Here's your sign.

8/1/2013 7:43:53 AM

Canton Ohio

I give MR. T. a whole lot of credit for experimenting with the Forchlorfenuron. It clearly works in improving fruit growth but the concentration and timing of application is what needs to be worked out. I know of at least five growers who are experimenting with it. One has a massive tomato growing so I know it works. Probably only contributes an additional 20% but that is still a huge gain over not using it.

8/1/2013 8:06:33 PM

Massillon, Ohio

^^ have we met, Frankie? and who has the giant tomato?

8/3/2013 4:29:03 PM

Zurich, Ontario Canada

In my books. Who ever brings the biggest kin to the show wins!!! I don't care how they did it- They still win!!!!!

8/3/2013 8:15:25 PM