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Wi

Wondering if anyone else is having problems getting pumpkins set on the 1610. I had high hopes with a huge aggressive plant, but all females are deformed 3-segment flowers that open partially before they are fully developed. All of my pollinations have appeared to have taken, but then grown very very slow before aborting before baseball size. Such a shame to have such a big plant with nothing on it. Wondering if it is a problem with the seed, or if I might be doing something that could cause it.

7/26/2011 3:49:30 PM

Mass

Have a friend here that is having simular problems with it. I saw some nice sets last weekend on Team Pumpkin tour though.

7/26/2011 4:14:08 PM

Massillon, Ohio

Mandy, Does your plant have normal male flowers, that are maturing and opening? I was growing two 1610 Lieber plants. I recently pulled one, because the males would form, stems would grow, but the blossoms didn't mature and open. I had a couple pollinations that grew to melon size, then aborted. The plant was very large & appeared healthy. My second plant is normal and, thankfully, is growing a nice pumpkin....so far!!

7/26/2011 4:15:34 PM

Portsmouth, RI

I have a nice one growing, the plant did a lot of strange things while growing though. On the plus side it grows 4 tap roots at each node.

7/26/2011 4:23:39 PM

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My 1610 is having the same problems as Nana Rea's, but right now it has a decent pumpkin growing at day 13, I won't be shocked if it aborts too.

My 1725 Harp is also aborting everything. All of my pollinations on the main look to have aborted on the 1725 now.

The difference is the 1725 appears to be normal and the 1610 was just as Nana described.

7/26/2011 7:13:31 PM

Ohio

My 1610 has nothing but sterile males. So far, I can't get any females past day 10. The females have all been normal and either do not grow any after pollination or they abort after several days. I know a buddy near me also has the 1610 and it's a normal plant with normal males and I think he's got one growing on it.

7/26/2011 9:09:15 PM

43.841677 , -79.086692

My 1197 Matessa, another 1161 selfed seed had sterile males. No stamen. The biggest female got to day 12-13 then started to shrivel up. I have pulled this plant.

7/26/2011 9:21:02 PM

Rhode Island

the 1725 harp as the 1610 lieber came from selfed selfed fruit.(pollinated with flowers from the same plant as pumpkin for the new growers )
this could cause freakish things to happen at times however ron and i have (2) 1725 harps in plus (1) 1610 lieber and all three are doing very well.
then again i dont know your soil make up so that could contribute to the plant/pollination/flower problems??

7/27/2011 4:57:57 AM

Polson, Montana

My 1610 Lieber is doing great with a nice pumpkin on it. I pulled the 1468.5 Stevens which was sterile. No stamen or pollen and all females aborted. I have a 1303 Sweet right beside where the 1468.5 was and it is doing great; so I don't think it was the soil. The plant was huge and looked great. Out of seven plants the 1468.5 was the only one that did this.

7/27/2011 9:58:44 AM

Minnesota

i have a 1610 that is an awsome plant but all males are underdeveloped with no pollen and all females get about softball size and abort. i posted a picture of one of the deformed females in my diary. http://www.bigpumpkins.com/Diary/DiaryViewOne.asp?eid=164599

7/27/2011 11:21:36 AM

Indiana

I highly doubt that there is anything genetic going on here. Likely either soil, weather, or just a freaky plant. Lets not forget that not every seed in a pumpkin is good.

I personally would be much more concerned about my planting site and what I have put on it in years past than with any other factor.

7/27/2011 2:01:24 PM

canal winchester ohio

I agree wil Pap & Tom, mabey a tissue test would help you out. I just done one on my plants & was surprised at the results. The pumpkin was at day 30 & I was expecting to see low potassium instead I saw my Cal-Mag ratios were out of whack. Without this knowledge I would have probably have started increasing potassium & further screwing up my plant. And the results were quick, last Monday I was cutting the leaves out of my patch & mailing them to A&L western and this past Monday 7 days later I had the results emailed back to me. Very quick & at $35 I would recommend anyone with problems to do it.

7/27/2011 2:25:07 PM

Wi

I think after this season when people look back and see there were some sterile 1810's, 1468's, 1610's, 1197's, etc...that they all have something in common. 1161 Rodonis. Maybe there is simply a percentage of 1161 offspring that are sterile. Not much we can do and we certainly can't fault anyone.

I don't think it's a soil issue as there are some darn good growers with these problems.

7/27/2011 2:57:55 PM

Eastern Pennsylvania

I had a sterile plant one year. I grew a ppkin in that same spot every year before that and every year since. I don't think missing parts of a plants anatomy could be caused by a soil imbalance.

7/27/2011 3:32:58 PM

Little-TON - Colorado

My 1610 is doing well, both on femalez and maleZ.....same with my 1725.

7/27/2011 3:35:36 PM

Eastern Pennsylvania

I had a sterile plant one year. I grew a ppkin in that same spot every year before that and every year since. I don't think missing parts of a plants anatomy could be caused by a soil imbalance.

7/27/2011 5:19:23 PM

San Diego, Ca.

It seems too coincidental to me that there are quite a few 1610's out there experiencing fertility related issues. I think that points to genetics. My 1610 had no problems with the male flowers but nearly all the females had a few seeds in the flower.

7/27/2011 9:38:30 PM

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There are way too many 1610's, and others, out there doing this for it to be everyone's soil. I also agree with Chris that the common denominator here seems to be the 1161.

The problem I've had with my 1725 plant aborting all the main vine fruit I'm pretty sure was heat related, I'm not used to seeing 105F temps. We'll see how the side vine fruits do, I'd bet that they'll be fine.

7/28/2011 9:35:58 AM

Easton, PA

My 1610 is doing well. I actually had two pumpkins that were doing very well and was forced to cut the side vine fruit off. The side vine fruit went 140lbs and had over 100 fully developed seeds in it. The exisitng fruit is still pushing 20-25lbs per day. With that being said, I did have a few females that had seeds exposed outside the lobes and the males, early on, were very weak.

7/28/2011 4:39:46 PM

Litchfield N. H. 03052

I had four pumpkins on the main of my 1610 . I culled three , and have a fine one growing , keeped the third one out.

7/28/2011 7:41:07 PM

long Island

my 1610 report card:
Main vine is a very dark green and very strong.
All the females on the main have one deformed lobe.
All the females on the secondaries are perfect.
The crown is big and strong
I have three splits in the main that have dried out and healed. I think this was a result of a nitrogen overdose, but I`m not sure. I have three pumpkins that are growing on the main and two that are growing on the secondaries. They are all under 20 days old and I have not decided which one to keep yet. Basically, I am still keeping my huge salad as healthy as possible. If I had the room, I think this plant would have easily grown to fill up my entire back yard. I am still hopeful that one of my sets will start to gain weight soon. I will know in another week or so. I had to terminate the main vine at 32 feet. That's the end of my yard, and the end of my story, for now.

7/29/2011 9:09:21 PM

Mpls

I have two 1610s growing one of which is doing okay the other I lost the pumpkin at about 150lbs and may not be able to get another! Both completely different shapes, and plant characteristics! My current one will be an ugly bird bath no doubt!

8/1/2011 9:48:01 AM

Radda in Chianti (SI) Italy

My experience with the 1610 and 1725.
1610:
The first 3 pumpkins (on the main vine)had seeds in the blossom end and were consequently deformed.
After losing the main vine due to a rotten node, I now have 4 pumpkins growing on tertiaries, I'll use them for Hallowen.
1725:
the first pumpkin on the main vine appeared at 25ft and aborted. We now have another one growing at 30ft. Very few pumpkins on this plant.

8/1/2011 1:12:33 PM

Dresden, Ohio

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11/21/2011 12:45:00 PM