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British Columbia, Canada

http://www.bigpumpkins.com/Diary/DiaryViewOne.asp?eid=148711

Geeeee, will the 1161 do it AGAIN?
Might be one to watch out for...?

-Jordan.

10/26/2010 7:01:57 PM

Germany

wow.. just amazing..

ss was 114 in september

10/26/2010 7:39:10 PM

Minnesota([email protected])

When is it getting weighed?

10/26/2010 7:54:20 PM

South Finland [email protected]

Or what it will be weighed...?

10/27/2010 12:20:15 AM

Lexington, Ky

If he can pull a cat out of the blossom end like Chris' daughter did, it might go heavy! Could be other animals there.....

10/27/2010 10:15:01 AM

long Island

How can a 1161 Rodonis x 1161 Rodonis cross produce a 1610 Lieber??

The 1610 is very very orange. I dont get it

Also, is the 1610 a "self"??

10/27/2010 7:34:23 PM

Bemidji Minnesota

The 1610 is a 1161 Rodonis x self.

Largest HD winner ever so far. At least I do not know of any bigger to have ever won the prettiest award. It had perfect shape and was a really nice orange.

Those 1161 Rodonis seeds are mighty impressive.

10/27/2010 8:30:26 PM

Jefferson Me

The 1161 has had a few with great color. Athough my 1471 may not been the perfect shape. It certainly was a bright orange and very shiney. Pictures should be up on AGGC soon.

10/27/2010 9:05:54 PM

long Island

OK, how can the picture of the 1161 in the first post produce the 1610?
Or, How did that ugly color 1161 turn into the beautiful 1610?
Whats up with that?

I am very seriously planting a seed from the 1610. (if I can get one)

Will it look like the mother?

10/27/2010 9:11:03 PM

Litchfield N. H. 03052

Charles Lieber selfed the 1161 to produce his 1610 , weighed at RI. The origional 1161 was orange with a normal blossom end. BR

10/27/2010 9:20:54 PM

Litchfield N. H. 03052

race34x , you should publish a picture of the blossom of your 1471 .

10/27/2010 9:22:59 PM

long Island

So if my goal is big and orange, should I try the 1610?
Or,
Would it be a bad gamble?

10/27/2010 11:51:32 PM

Commack, NY

anytime you put seed to dirt is a gamble. sometimes you get what you were hoping for, sometimes you get a surprise. in this case because the seed is selfed, i think you probably have a pretty good shot at getting orange. the "big" part is up to the weather/grower/soil/luck. The seed as of right now is unproven, perhaps you will be part of the group that "proves" its got what it takes.

10/28/2010 6:37:09 AM

Minnesota([email protected])

Wally,
I agree, it is somewhat of a gamble. That being said, I am hoping to grow the 1610 myself next year. Hopefully being that it is selfed, the traits of big and orange are retained. The 603.5 Muller was an orange pumpkin that was selfed. It's been a reliable orange producer. Hopefully the 1610 follow suit.

10/28/2010 1:59:35 PM

long Island

Thank you for the replies.
I am still trying to understand. Please bear with me.
I only have room to grow one plant.
If my goal is big and orange, what would be the best choice of seed with the least amount of "gamble"?

Scott, I understand the gamble of seed to dirt
Doug14, Is that the same gamble you are agreeing with or is it something else you are worried about?

10/28/2010 7:12:31 PM

Minnesota([email protected])

The gamble I was referring to, is that fact that the 1610 hasn't been grown out yet, of course. We have no offspring to go by. Being the female was selfed, I think gives it a good chance of producing orange pumpkins. Especially if the pollen carried the orange trait with it. But I'm no expert.
What is your goal on pumpkin size wally? It's difficult to answer your question about the best seed choice with least amount of gamble, for big and orange. You may want to start a separate post regarding this question.

10/28/2010 7:57:25 PM

Brooklyn Corner, Nova Scotia

Wally, if your goal is orange, there are many seeds out there that will greatly improve your odds of producing a big beautiful fruit. Think genetics, not weight. On the seed exchange Mr. Drum ( Jed ) has some great crosses that have a lot of potential to produce big orange offspring. Research Northrup, Zulke, John Young, Dave Bhaskaran to name a few. You will find what you're looking for, good luck.

10/28/2010 9:21:28 PM

Jefferson Me

Bill R, I just put some photos on the grower diary. I think they should be up within a day. Edwin P.

10/28/2010 11:01:25 PM

long Island

OK Doug14. The 1161 is a totally proven seed. And as we both know it proved itself big-time with the 1610

It seems to me that every pumpkin that is grown from the original 1161 is now "unproven"

I hope we both get to grow this seed next year. It would be great for you and I to "prove" the seed. And it would be fun to compare notes on the plant throughout the growing season.

Just between you and I, and the other 10,000 people that are reading this, my goal on pumpkin size next year is to break the 500 lb barrier.

10/29/2010 2:49:15 PM

Minnesota([email protected])

Wally,
I hope we can both get the 1610 seed, and both prove it as well. I'd be happy to compare note, if we both grow it.

10/29/2010 5:59:27 PM

Bemidji Minnesota

If either of you grow out the 1610 next year, selfing it again may be a good idea.

If you get size and color like the mother again, the next generation would give an even better chance, as the more generations a seed has been selfed, the more consistent it becomes.

- someone correct me if I'm wrong on that, but that is what I have read on the subject.

10/30/2010 11:41:11 AM

long Island

I sure hope that Charles Lieber is reading this.

10/31/2010 6:43:33 PM