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Greenfield Nh

can anyone tell me if pumpkin symbios and biogrow endo plus are the same type of product. I am debating on which one to use in my patch this year. Any comments would be very helpful. Jeff B.

2/7/2010 9:59:03 AM

This year I am going to go with a mix of both. 5 pounds of each mixed. I know quite a few other growers are doing this to.

Martin

2/7/2010 11:06:13 AM

Breslau, Ontario, Canada

I will be mixing the 2 brands. I believe Phil Hunt also did this last year.

2/7/2010 12:01:11 PM

Washington State

Hi Tiller, No they are not the same. BioGrow Endo Plus is made by a scientist with a Doctorate in the field, and has 4 species of Endomycorrhizal Fungi instead of one. BioGrow also has two strains of Trichoderma, and a biostimulant package. I would be glad to send you a multi-page report that lists the different species and points out the differences. Email me at [email protected]

Thanks, Joel

2/7/2010 3:07:22 PM

Www.extremepumpkinstore.com

Mr. Tiller, If I am not mistaken, Former world record holders Ron Wallace, and Joe Jutras use Symbios Pumpkin Pro as well as Don Young and many other very successful growers.

2/8/2010 5:13:57 AM

Sophia WV

What is biostimulant package kelp humic mixed with it ?Whats the spore count for Bio Grow Endo?

2/8/2010 10:15:32 AM

Washington State

The Biostimulant package contains kelp, humic acid, amino acid, Vitamins E,B & C. Mehdi Daho, Bob Liggett used BioGrow Endo Plus and they actually paid for it. I run a small company and can't afford to give product away to top growers. Biogrow with the stimulant package has 20,000 propagules per lb. We also now have a product from Doctor Michael Amaranthus with 60,000 propagules per lb. without the Biostimulant or Trichoderma. and also a superfine with 120,000 propagules per lb.
Thanks to the many who have emailed us at [email protected] to get the multi page report. We also have 6 different independent test results to send.

Joel

2/8/2010 3:34:58 PM

Wi

I used Joel's product last season. I grew a 1543# pumpkin and my big one got away at 426". Big pumpkins weren't proof enough for me so I sent root samples from the 1543# plant to Western Labs.

Root testing results were very good for myco colonization and I only used about 1.5# of endo plus on the 1543 plant.

I will say that yes I know that the RTI works very well. My competitor on the wrong side of the Mississippi uses it with great success and kicked my butt at 3/3 weigh-offs. Unfortunately it's not apples to apples until he tests a plant and that did not happen this season.

Unfortunately for me I also pay for Joel's product...lol.

2/9/2010 9:53:24 AM

Greenfield Nh

biogro endoplus thanks everybody, especially joel and chris for the imformation you provided. I plan on using the product this growing season. Chris, could you drop another 1140 seed in my club seed packet. I really want to plant it thanks alot. jeffrey brooks

2/9/2010 10:57:21 AM

i used rti pumpkin pro and i bought mine

2/9/2010 12:09:29 PM

Preston CT

bio endo plus works well for me...1 lb per plant...

2/9/2010 2:07:07 PM

Cameron

We used a mix of the two on our plants last year, because we weren't sure who's product was best. We'll do the same again this year. We bought ours as well.

Jane & Phil

2/10/2010 9:27:36 AM