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Glosta

Could you possibly graft 2 AG plants together to make a super plant with double mains? Anyone ever tried?

7/19/2009 5:55:24 AM

Yuba City, Ca.

:D It make you wonder if it would grow to fast and split- you know what they say about slow.

7/19/2009 10:28:19 AM

Midway, UT

I've done some research on this. It is possible to do. It is actually a pretty standard practice in some Asian contries to do these kinds of graphs with squash and watermelon plants to help reduce the effects of cetain types of soil born diseases. Some AG growers have done it with watermelon graphs. MuddyJoe's comment about blowing up the pumpkins is probably a real possible issue but at the same time it might get you to over 2,000 pounds if controlled properly and with the right genetics. A pumpkin like the 1631 that is known to grow steady crossed with a solid pumpkin like the 1041 or 1502 might help to overcome some of those issues. My thoughts are you would grow two plants towards each other from the opposite ends of the patch and then graph the main of the one plant to the side vine of the plant that will grow the fruit. In theory you would double the size of the root system and the size of the plant in half the time. Would it work? In my research I couldn't find anyone that has ever done it with AGs but it seems like it could have potential.

7/19/2009 1:20:18 PM

Minnesota([email protected])

Interesting!

7/19/2009 1:59:48 PM

Glosta

I know what I'm doing next year!!!!!

7/20/2009 7:37:12 AM

Glosta

I'm gonna try 2 different approaches with this. I will try ArvadaBoy's suggestion of accross the patch planting and then I'll plant 2 plants about 10 feet apart and have the mains intersect at about 5 feet out and graft there. I have so many ideas my head hurts.

7/20/2009 7:47:43 AM

Glosta

Kind of like these ideas.
*
|| Bury vine |
|| | /bury vine
||--Super AG 1 |/
|| Graft Location--|--Super AG 2
||--Graft Location /|
/\ bury vine / |
/ \ |
/ \ |
* * *

7/20/2009 8:02:41 AM

Glosta

That didn't work well.

7/20/2009 8:03:28 AM

Glosta

I hope this works

<img src="C:\Documents and Settings\blangley\My Documents\My Pictures\AG garfting idea.jpg"/>

7/20/2009 8:32:50 AM

Glosta

nope

7/20/2009 8:33:00 AM

Glosta

I put the drawing in the photo gallery if anyone is interested.

7/20/2009 8:38:03 AM

Rhode Island

a new grower who does not know his ass from his elbow about growing giant pumpkins wants to re-invent the wheel and treat the plant like it was a couple apple trees grafted together? wow.
wonder why the good growers dont jump on board?

7/20/2009 5:07:16 PM

Midway, UT

Pap didn't a good grower once tell Ron he wouldn't give him a seed because he wasn't a good grower. The question is out of the box but at least he is thinking. I don't know who this grower is but at least he seems to be putting some thoughts into his growing. Since you were rude and didn't explain why the idea is wrong then you are no better than than the grower that denied Ron the seed not seeing the potential and just judging. I didn't see anyone saying this would work. Nobody has tried it. I can show studies that shows higher weights with squash plants however. That doesn't mean that it would work with how we grow AGs however. Getting back to the point the question was if anyone ever tried it.

7/21/2009 3:21:01 AM

Rhode Island

thank you judge arvadaboy

your right it was rude. i guess im just to long in the tooth for this site. cant help but get caught up in the foolishness from time to time,im taking my leave after this post.i cant take it any longer.

by the way the comment i made has nothing to do with and in no way a comparison to refusing a seed to anyone.
further more i have given more high quality seeds to unknown growers because i want them to have a good opportunity.more than you could ever give.much more valuable then any commentary you or i could make.

my point was and is? why would a new grower want to find a better way ( or start experimenting) when he/she has no practical experience to draw from? to compare results against?

time for a break, im taking these posts to serious

pap

7/21/2009 6:18:18 AM

Glosta

I'm not trying to reinvent the wheel, I just know that grafting plants to more disease resistance root stock makes them more resistant to disease. Burying the main,cutting the secondaries and burying the ends, why? To get more roots to feed the Pumpkin, so why not have 2 mains feeding the pumpkin. Just an idea. I maybe new but I am embracing everything I have read on this site and others, I want to do things the right way but also look for other ways to try. If it works then great if not at least I can say I tried.

I respect the opinions of those who have done it the right way and by no means do I think I am better than anyone else. I just know I have found something I enjoy and want to give it all I can.

And Pap I have read your replys to many other growers post and have concluded you know what you are doing. And in 10 years I hope to be as knowledgable as you are now. I'm in this for the long haul and maybe someday I can enjoy the feeling of a win at Topsfield fair.

7/21/2009 8:19:00 AM