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Global warming my butt. How will Al Gore deal with this inconvenient truth?

7/6/2009 7:14:43 PM

San Diego, Ca.

How will he deal with it Steve? He'll smoke another doobie thats how. LOL

7/6/2009 8:46:38 PM

[email protected]

That wouldn't really surprise me. But it won't help the season for some of our brethren either. 10+ inches of rain in June is unprecedented. June is normally the driest month of the year here in the Northeast. The root diseases are flourishing even if the pumpkins aren't.

7/6/2009 8:54:40 PM

Boulder County Colorado USA planet Earth

Here comes the ice age yaaaaaa.

7/6/2009 9:18:36 PM

Bauernhof

Come on Tremor, does everything have to come back to such tortured "logic"?

Fact 1) The overall global temperature has been rising for years.

You can debate the cause and argue with Gore, but the fact remains that the average global temperature is rising.

Fact 2) With global warming there is a tendency to wider swings in local climates. Higher temperatures lead to swings in local precipitation and some areas, particularly near the coasts, may actually have more cloud cover, cooler temps and more rain. But the issue is "global" warming and not the precipitation in one area of one country in one year.

Having said that, I sure feel sorry for you and all those in the Northeast this year. It must be tough growing with all that rain and I wish you all the best

7/6/2009 11:01:16 PM

Anamosa, IA [email protected]

Tremor, you are getting the same weather we had a year ago. If the trend continues, you will have a hot June next year. I am praying for rain now. Most of the storms have been going north and south, leaving us fairly dry.

7/6/2009 11:52:56 PM

Pocatello ([email protected])

Here is a fact for you... Global temperatures have risen and fallen throughout the earth's history, long before there were theories about man's involvement. Also, a fact is that CO2 levels follow temperature swings over centuries, not preceding them. This suggests to me that the earth is a massive "feedback" system, and it takes care of it's own climate. Well, really it takes it's cues from the sun.

You can have any opinion you want. Mine is, that man-made global warming is a "convenient excuse" used by governments to exert control over their people.

7/7/2009 12:05:13 AM

Cochecton, NY

And it's raining AGAIN here!!!

7/7/2009 12:09:18 AM

Pocatello ([email protected])

I'm sorry if my post rubs some people the wrong way. It really doesn't belong, but neither do the lectures about man-made global warming. I didn't throw the first punch, but it's getting to the point that, I for one, will not sit idly by and take this crap anymore. Talk about tortured logic...

I'd like to request that the thread be taken down. If not, well, you know where I stand. ;-)

7/7/2009 12:25:15 AM

Pocatello ([email protected])

As for this year's weather, nobody knows. But sunspot activity is VERY low right now. It's low, while the normal cycle suggests that it ought to be high. I don't know if any of you control the sun, but if you do, can you get it to work normally? Maybe if you ask nicely? Maybe it's getting upset with us for driving SUVs.

I don't know if there is a connection between the sun output levels and cooler temperatures this year, but it's the best that I've heard.

7/7/2009 12:30:19 AM

Mill Bay, British Columbia

Best weather here for May and June in years.....go figure.

7/7/2009 1:15:18 AM

South Bloomfield, Ohio

I don't buy into the whole global warming thing either. Did man cause global warming to end the last ice age?

7/7/2009 6:42:47 AM

Anamosa, IA [email protected]

There are lots of natural things that can have an effect on global climate. The output of the sun. Volcanic eruptions. Comet or asteroid strikes. Underwater volcanoes or melting ice packs changing ocean currents. Movement of the tectonic plates into different latitudes. Natural cooling of the earth, which once was a mass of molten rock. This planet has gone from unimagineably hot to being frozen in ice, and everything in between.

Human activity has been proven to change climate as well. Deforestation of the cedars of Lebanon turned a lot of the Middle East into desert. Plowing up the western plains contributed to the Dust Bowl of the 1930's. We would be foolish to think that burning up all of the fossil carbon deposits won't change the climate.

The whole core of the global warming debate acutally is POLITICS. On the Right you have Republicans who say, burn everything up, we can't hurt the earth. Doesn't sound very coservative to me. On the left we have Democrats who say we have to quit using energy and move back into caves. Doesn't sound very liberal to me either. We need to ignore all of the political hippocrates and take a very close look at what we are doing. The truth probably lies somewhere in the middle.

7/7/2009 8:21:07 AM

Saegertown Pa.

This belongs on the non pumpkin related board so some of us that just want to grow pumpkins don't have to read it.

7/7/2009 10:06:57 AM

[email protected]

The weather conditions are pumpkin related. At least to growers it is. I should never have mentioned Gore knowing how some folks react to him.

Kürbisknecht,

Do you ever contribute anything useful regarding pumpkins? Do you even grow pumpkins? Diary? Gallery? Pumpkin anything?

Regardless; The past 120 years of surface temperature data is available for research & the planet has been warming a little. Most of our modern tools haven't been around 120 years so debating the effect of man's tools is irrelevant (especially here).

http://data.giss.nasa.gov/gistemp/graphs/

We're up about a half a degree Celsius. Who cares? We can't change it & Earth's inhabitants will either learn to adapt or die. That's the way life is. In theory the rising temps should help to increase weights.

I started this thread as a tongue in cheek way for growers to share the pain many of us are having to endure & have some fun at Al Gore's expense. This was never intended to turn into a political diatribe.

I feel bad for valid growers here in the NE too. It stinks to plan the year & have mother change the rules after the game starts.

Where is Bauernhof anyway?

7/7/2009 10:57:47 AM

Falls City, NE

Thanks Tremor I live here in midwest nowhere and we have a record year for rain also. It's a hobby we all should have fun at not get all thin skinned over some polictical nonsense. There are some who just have to defend people they think they know and understand. Just grow pumpkins already when things are posted I look at it as just having fun why can't everyone else. It's no wonder the heavy hitters don't submit to this site.

7/7/2009 11:32:18 AM

Corbin, KY

HE's got the whole world in his hands!!!

7/7/2009 12:08:09 PM

Sharon, MA

Great Post Steve. Good to see all the opinions. Just came in from another run and I'm soaked. The rain depth gage in my garden says we got another 1" of Rain up here in Massachusetts. Add that to the 8 inches in the last two weeks and we are definitely getting to much for the roots to stay healthy. Time will tell.

7/7/2009 1:28:24 PM

Sequim, WA

Maybe you should grow giant rice. You could mix sand with your compost for better drainage. When it comes to the weather and gardening, you get what you get, and you don't throw a fit. As for global warming, it happens, then it cools, then it warms again. Yes, the last ice age ended because men were using torches lit with the burning fat of mammoths so they could hunt and night. Prehistoric spotlighting. The heat from the torches melted the glaciers and raised sea levels. It turned out badly for the mammoths as well. I'll leave it to science to prove this theory wrong.

7/7/2009 2:08:59 PM

Pembroke, New Hampshire

Raining here again with flood warnings. Cool, in the 60's.
And.....I like cheese....and beer!

7/7/2009 5:25:15 PM

[email protected]

Giant Rice huh? That's an idea.

Sun this morning - not a cloud in sight.
Then about an inch like Steve got in RI.
Then the sun came back out.
Until another shower an hour ago.
Now the sun is out again.

Jeez...

7/7/2009 7:10:45 PM

ordinary,VA

so is man made global warming true or false? hehehe

way back in the day my teacher Dr.Wesley and i could not see eye to eye on the topic of the up coming "man made" ice age, he swore the world would be in by 2010.
wish he was alive so i could say, see told you so!
now erase that B and put an A on my paper you ole tree hugger!

7/7/2009 9:18:46 PM

South Bloomfield, Ohio

You guys must be getting your rain from the Atlantic 'cause we're not sending it.

7/7/2009 9:39:54 PM

Billerica,Massachusetts

must be global warming?

7/8/2009 10:33:41 AM

ordinary,VA

lol!!!!

7/8/2009 2:49:56 PM

San Luis Obispo, Ca.

Gourdzilla     

San Diego, Ca.
    

How will he deal with it Steve? He'll smoke another doobie thats how. LOL


Support AB 390 in California!

7/11/2009 5:44:32 PM