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White Plains, NY

Hi All, Last season the WALLACE lll0 (Thanks, Pap) was a beautiful pumpkin, great orange color and shape, approx. 800 lbs when I lost it to a Dill ring in mid august.

My question is, will all of its seeds carry the Dill ring defect????????????

Thank You.

4/16/2009 9:58:24 AM

Southeast

The 940 Mombert 98 was well known for sags and splits. Check the AGGC for DMG fruits. This is one example of a genetic trait carried in a seed line.

4/16/2009 10:45:28 AM

Little-TON - Colorado

We will be testing out the theory this year....If you can bread it in, you should be able to breed it out also...Question is the rapid growth of the genetic line the reason it splits in the first place....BiZ crossed the solid 651 Grande into hiZ IceBroken...The 651 (1502 X 500 Wallace) had Dill NO Dill rings or cracks inside at all. The IceBroken had the classic two ring split...We will be anxious to watch this one grow this year in BiZ's diary....proof will tell once we cut it open..but we should see some evidence while its growing too. PerhapZ BiZ will plant his IceBroken too to see about the male vs female thing..course one test doeZ not make it 100% either..but itZ a start....

4/16/2009 11:23:57 AM

Murfreesboro, TN, USA

I often read about conversations about Dill Rings. I am not real sure what a Dill Ring is. Does anyone have a picture of one or know where I could find what one looks like? Or a description. I think that would help understanding what to look for in my own pumpkins as they grow. Anything would be greatly appreciated.

4/16/2009 1:14:10 PM

Midway, UT

A dill ring is a ring or sunken in area that runs parallel to the ribs that is a flaw in the pumpkin. Often splits happen when dill rings form. You can see a picture of one at:

http://bigpumpkins.com/Diary/DiaryViewOne.asp?eid=96272

4/16/2009 2:37:02 PM

Murfreesboro, TN, USA

ArvadaBoy, Thanks, now I underdand. These are very interesting.

4/16/2009 2:53:55 PM

Pocatello ([email protected])

I don't know if it's genetic or nutritional, but I'm growing the 964 Wolf again this year because last year's fruit was an absolute piece of granite inside. THICK walls and no flaws, no cracks whatsoever. It was nice, for once, to not have to worry about splitting the fruit.

4/16/2009 3:59:31 PM

Bemidji Minnesota

That's a shame Capt. I would not have figured it for the 1110, as that one had a very nice tall round classic pumpkin shape.

It's still on the short list of very good looking pumpkins over 1000 pounds.

Why not plant one of your 800 as an experiment, if you have the space and treat it like a genetics plant, just to see, and self pollinate it, and if it turns out ok, you have a batch of "good ones".

Sometimes there are ugly dill ring line saging cantalouped squmpkins that throw tall pretty orange ones free of sag lines or internal flaws.

Then there is just those rare seeds out of a really good batch that may have a genetic flaw. Say there is a batch that can go over 1000 pounds more than 50% of the time, with no problems, some really nice looking ones 500-900 range, but then an occasional 2% of them give small warty nasties, and the rare flat vine that looks like it got gamma radiation.

4/16/2009 5:44:22 PM