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Marion,IN

What is everyones opinion about planting seeds that were inside of a pumpkin that came with a "dmg" after the weight? I'm working on my line-up for this year and have a couple seeds with killer genetics from the mom and dad, but it has the stigmatized "dmg". Would you kindly pass on the dmg pumpkin, or would you take a chance and put it in the dirt? I'm just trying limit the things that could bring my season to an early end.

Mark G.

3/4/2009 3:17:25 PM

Pataskala,OH

I dont know sounds like there will be alot of problems in the future if you breed defective genes into the pumpkins. Sounds bad to me to do that. IMHO

3/4/2009 3:30:06 PM

Colorado Springs.Co

Glasiers 992 was dmg and he keeps having great success using it as a pollinator.
http://www.pumpkinlink.com/seedname.asp?pumpkin=glasier&col=&Submit22223=View+Pumpkin

3/4/2009 3:53:57 PM

Western NY

I'll be planting one from one of my DMGs.

Keep in mind the 705 Stelts was a split, and went on to produce some of the pumpkins most important to our modern genetics.

I really believe that a lot more pumpkins out there would have split if they were truly pushed to their potential. Sometimes the difference between dmg and official is only a few pounds.

3/4/2009 3:58:41 PM

Flowery Branch, Georgia

DMG is a grower just being honest about the condition
of his fruit.

3/4/2009 4:25:53 PM

Midway, UT

I would have to ask what the source of the dmg was from when making my decision. If it was a split caused by a dill ring then I wouldn't plant it. If it was a split that happened after 6 inches of rain then I would be less concerned.

3/4/2009 5:16:28 PM

Murfreesboro, TN, USA

The way I look at it, is the fruit had a problem that may or may not be related to genetics. I think most likely not. The damage could have come from other forces such as excess rain causing the fruit to grow to quickly, or some other unforetunate event. Nevertheless, I would plant and attempt to grow a damaged seed no matter what. Especially if it has great genetics. The potential is there to grow the big one. This is just my oppinion.

3/4/2009 5:39:07 PM

Frankfort Ohio

so many splits happen because they pushed the pumpkin a little to hard and i look for this problem to get worse because everyone is trying to get to 2000# but being new if i split 8 of my 9 pumpkins and the 9th makes it to 2000# i would not care

3/4/2009 6:14:31 PM

Upstate S.C.

Alot of things can determine DMG, Weather is one of those and grower misconduct is another..So the pumpkin seed could be GREAT however mother nature or US could screw it up...

3/4/2009 6:16:15 PM

Owensboro, Ky.

In 07, one of the Burton Brothers (Bear Wallow Farms) put a pkn on the scales that weighed almost 1400#'s (grown from a 275 VanHook). It had a small pin hole in a lower area, caused from the massive weight it was tryin to support. I wish I could get one of those seeds to grow!!!! It was weighed as exh. and dmg!!! Peace, Wayne

3/4/2009 6:50:29 PM

anytown U.S,A,

Just because it has DMG behind it doesn't mean that it is a bad seed choice. It would be helpful if you could find out why the grower thought it split or became damaged. It may have been totally out of his hands and in the hands of mother nature. IMO

3/4/2009 8:09:34 PM

Iowa

Let's not assume all "DMG" fruits are damaged because of splits and or dill rings! Dan and i grew a beautiful 1370 pound pumpkin last summer, but because of a ground hog that moved into the hood in the dark of the night and thought it would make a great midnight snack....it's now a 1370DMG

3/4/2009 8:29:38 PM

Littleton, Colo

...thiz iz what I've learned from two HH......they all have the dill ring in the gene....juzt az many other growerz have already said, it can be brought on by something like rain....every seed iz different.....it'z believed that the dill ring can be breed out but the only way of knowing iz growing the DMG seed to see.....I plan on growing the IceBreaker DMG.....the pollinator had thick wallz and waz solid and I'm hoping we breed that, what it lacked, into it.........grOw it !!

3/4/2009 8:33:03 PM

Ohio

How many of them dmg pumpkins would have been dmg if they was brought to a different weigh off that was one or two weeks earlier?

3/4/2009 8:44:00 PM

Marshfield, Ma, USA

My first pumpkin over 1000 pounds was grown from a DMG pumpkin, the 1340 Kline. (1370 Rose X 805 Pukos) I believed in the genetics and was rewarded for my faith.

3/4/2009 8:48:26 PM

Boise City, Oklahoma, USA

When I look at a DMG to consider, I ask what the defect was. Soft spot from excessive wet; split from a serious downpour... I'd plant over cracking through at a dill ring.

Consider the conditions and circumstances that may have caused the failure.

3/4/2009 9:46:21 PM

Columbus,ohio

If it splits from excess rain could that be genetic...You want a pumpkin that will hold up in heavy rain. I always am on the look out for pum[kin that look to be bomb-proof

3/4/2009 10:05:21 PM

Belgium Europe

Can someone explain me how rainfall can make a pumpkin split?

3/5/2009 3:23:25 AM

Berlin,mi.([email protected])

At least ten of us mich. growers will be planting the 1413 Werner 08 dmg pumpkin seed. The pumpkin had a small split on the under side where the pumpkin had a concave bottom. It is my opinion that a concave bottom is not related to genetics. i have had the same thing happen and i feel it is just how the pumpkin was possition or how well it was able to move while growing. I have no problem with growing a seed with dmg pinned to it. the 1370 C/P 08 dmg. was dmg by a ground hog. nothing to do with genetics.

3/5/2009 6:31:25 AM

Taylorsville, California

The 500 Northrup was dmg, and I believe the 1288 Wallace dmg will be planted very heavily,, my first pumpkin I grew was 656 dmg, because the neighbor kids pummeled it with grapefruit sized rocks.ouch!

3/5/2009 1:39:59 PM

[email protected]

723 & 845 were both UOW though maybe not DMG. I don't know.

3/5/2009 2:21:43 PM

Owensboro, Ky.

BTW, if that Burton pkn had been weighed 2 days earlier, it would still be the official Ky. State Record...sometimes it is just timing!!! Peace, Wayne

3/6/2009 12:53:28 AM

Taylorsville, California

correction; i believe 500 Northrup was EST, not dmg, i remembered wrong

3/6/2009 1:34:32 AM

Ohio

Your exactly right Wayne, and just to add to Steve's post about that 1413 , that pumpkin could have been taken to a couple weigh offs before it was found to be dmg at a much later date, no one would be talking about that pumpkin being dmg if that was the case. I have no problem with growing a pumpkin like that 1413, and nether does Quinn. Quinns not usually one on growing Dmg pumpkins but this one is a exception to his rule is what he told me.

You gotta figure also, a lot of these huge pumpkins sit for over 100 days or better, sitting in the elements,and having one survive until the 2nd and sometimes 3rd week in October is a accomplishment in it self just to keep it fresh and from splitting in cold weather.

Brooks

3/6/2009 10:23:55 AM

Windsor, Ontario, Canada

JOS, too much water, grows too fast, BOOM!!!

3/6/2009 10:43:22 AM

Colorado

dmg seed maybe yes maybe no.Look into the wall thicness on both parents ,shape?, stem split?,dill rings?,deep ribs?thin blossum?environmental split? fast grower? long grower?Shitty grower?etc.and then make your decision.

3/6/2009 11:51:39 AM

Lloydminster/AB

Too much water, grows too fast, BOOM!! .....only if your soil was too dry to begin with, but that's a whole thread by itself lol. Now on topic IF both parents were dmg.I am not sure I would plant it however I plan on growing one of my own where that was the case. Who knows how the genes will line up.

3/6/2009 3:50:34 PM

Belgium Europe

Gonna be hard to make 1700lbs in 100days or less without going 'to fast' .

3/6/2009 7:07:07 PM

Greencastle, PA

Jos, one of those 70lb/day pumpkins will hold together eventually. All we need to do is plant every seed from the 720 DMG Rose.

3/8/2009 6:31:08 PM

Gold Hill, Oregon

its also possible that a mouse or mole could have chewed a hole in the bottom of it.

3/9/2009 4:15:30 AM

Anchorage, Alaska

1308.5 McKie 2006
-1556.5 Werner 2007
--1413.5 Werner 2008 DMG
---1222.0 Wells 2009
---1042.0 Clark 2009 DMG (bottom split)
---918.0 Bosworth 2009
---882.0 Snyder 2009 DMG (pinhole blossom end)

There aren't enough results to say for sure there is a correlation, but 50/50 wouldn't be my favorite odds.

10/28/2009 5:53:25 PM