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Subject: killing stumps
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| shaker |
Colorado Springs.Co
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I cut down a white ash that was growing in the middle of my patch. I have heard you can bore holes in the stump and pour a vineger/salt mix down the holes and it will kill it. Any thoughts or other ideas?
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1/8/2009 4:51:46 PM
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| Jed |
Frankfort Ohio
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a buddy with a 4x4 and some beer the stump will come out or you will have a truck to plant in lol
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1/8/2009 4:54:07 PM
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| CliffWarren |
Pocatello ([email protected])
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If it's not sprouting new growth, I'd just turn it into a resting spot. In a few years it'll be much easier to remove.
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1/8/2009 6:45:30 PM
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| Tremor |
[email protected]
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To prevent sucker regrowth use straight Roundup immediately after cutting. Apply with a paint brush. If the stump has dried, cut it again an inch lower.
We sell special Roundup to utility companies with a die added so the supervisor can see that all stumps in a line have been treated.
Holes are for burning the stump out. You pack the holes with a kerosene & ammonium nitrate mix. Do NOT try this stunt without proper training.
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1/8/2009 7:05:53 PM
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| Tree Doctor |
Mulino, Oregon
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Stve, Round-up works good but crossbow or garlon work better. make sure you have freshly cut cells and apply. You can cut around the outside at an angle to expose the cambium which is where the chemical needs to be applied.
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1/8/2009 7:53:53 PM
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| Milford |
milford, CT,
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I pulled out 2 old stumps a few years ago..I was amazed that even though the trees were cut 3 years before the roots were still alive...It is definitely worth getting it out of the patch at some point...the trees I had definitely sucked a lot of nutrients and water from the soil... Mark
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1/8/2009 8:01:26 PM
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| Milford |
milford, CT,
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I used the grunt method...cut as many roots out as possible...rock the stump around a bit to make sure it is fairly loose...then hooked the stump up to the truck and they came out.
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1/8/2009 8:03:07 PM
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| TruckTech1471 |
South Bloomfield, Ohio
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Tree Doctor,
I realize you are an expert, but wouldn't Garlon or Cross bow add unwanted residuals? The stump is in the middle of the patch. Personally, I'd hire a stump-cutter to take care of it.
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1/8/2009 8:50:54 PM
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| shaker |
Colorado Springs.Co
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I don't want chemicals in the patch and I'd have to remove fence to get equipment in there. I just thought there might be a simple organic solution. I'm enjoying the discussion however. Thanks.
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1/8/2009 9:48:51 PM
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| Tarps |
Woburn, MA.
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Sounds like Jed has it right a case of beer & a buddy with a big truck. Just save the beer till your done. lol
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1/8/2009 10:20:00 PM
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| don young |
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less than 15 inch diameter-a good axe and strong arms-they make stump grinders that go thru 36 inch gate
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1/8/2009 11:01:13 PM
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| Donkin |
nOVA sCOTIA
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Don and Jeds buddy, a few cold beer and the stump is toast. End of story.
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1/8/2009 11:47:47 PM
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| OkieGal |
Boise City, Oklahoma, USA
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If you can't bribe the guy in March hiking down the alley with his stump grinder... (did that once) then cut the stump long and pay the guy with the backhoe. He took three out of here without much problem... dug around them a bit then big chain and that was it :) He dug some more and did my deep breaking that way, also filled out my minimum charge with him.
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1/9/2009 12:35:02 AM
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| big pumpkin dreamer |
Gold Hill, Oregon
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i was told that you can drill holes in the stump and put boraxo into the holes. not sure what it will do to the soil. i have never tried it.
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1/9/2009 4:03:47 AM
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| Tree Doctor |
Mulino, Oregon
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giant pumpkin dude, the half life of those 2,4-d products is very,very short. I wouldn't worry at all about any residual issues. I would do the same as you however a stump grinder will not get rid of all the roots.
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1/9/2009 11:45:58 AM
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| shaker |
Colorado Springs.Co
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Ok I'm leaning towards Tree Doctors suggestion.
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1/9/2009 1:27:44 PM
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| BrianB |
Eastern Washington State
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Shaker, If you go the removal route you risk soil compaction especially with wet soil.
Tree Doc: you're giving great advice on killin trees but aren't they your patients? Dude, what about the hippocratic oath? lol
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1/9/2009 2:08:38 PM
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| LIpumpkin |
Long Island,New York
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Jim's is the hippocritic oath....
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1/9/2009 2:11:59 PM
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| CliffWarren |
Pocatello ([email protected])
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I was reading that the half-life of 2-4D is somewhere between 20 and 200 days. Of course, what can you really believe on the internet?
I have an ongoing war with my neighbors about the use of 2-4D. He uses it on his lawn, and I have an huge flower garden on the side of the yard that borders his, and this flower garden barely survives........ I've also suspected 2-4D damage on my GP plants, and this is from about 200 feet away. I have a very big yard, and the further away from this guy, the better all my plants do.... He is upwind from me, so everything comes over.
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1/9/2009 4:05:58 PM
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| Tree Doctor |
Mulino, Oregon
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Brian, it does seem a little strange however just because it was a tree doesn't mean it isn't a weed. The definition of a weed is any plant growing where it is not wanted. So if you have a 'tree' growing in the middle of the garden and you don't want it there..... Cliff, drift is always the most common way broadleaf weed killers cause problems. I agree with Brian, although if you garden is firm enough to get a stump grinding into it, I wouldn't worry about excess compaction! lol good luck
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1/9/2009 8:49:00 PM
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| OregonDan |
Cottage Grove, Oregon
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Take it from another former tree professional the 2-4D is the best way to go. You apply it to the outer edge of the stump right after you have made that last cut and the tree will suck it right down into the root system and your done with it. I've only had it not work on just a couple of trees, Figs, Black Locust. I agree with the Tree Doctor if a tree is in the garden and you don't want it there it then is a weed. White Ash should be a snap. Offer your neighbor a beer and then ask him nicely to spray his weeds on windless days.
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1/10/2009 12:59:51 AM
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| Vineman |
Eugene,OR
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If killing a stump is anything like killing a pumpkin plant, I have a number of tried and true methods.
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1/10/2009 1:40:29 AM
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| Tremor |
[email protected]
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Jim (Treedoc) & Dan are correct. There is no drift when stumping correctly. Crossbow & Garlon are great & since we're only treating the stump there is very little chance of soil contact if applied properly.
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1/10/2009 2:45:49 AM
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