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Phil D

Annapolis Valley Nova Scotia

Whats the most important? the distance of the female from the stump , or the date when it was polinated? ( I realise it depends on where you live that determines the optimum date)

7/1/2008 3:11:58 PM

shaker

Colorado Springs.Co

Phil, I asked the same question awhile back as I seem to be falling behind, thankfully I have one around 7'9 that should open tomorrow and another hidden in the next cluster of leaves that should end up around 10 ft and hopefully will be ready in five days or so. I decided to pollinate those two and follow the progress. I won't wait for the next one after that. 10ft july 6th will have to do.

7/1/2008 5:21:09 PM

Pennsylvania Rock

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Similar situation here Phil. I have one at 12 ft (4 lober), set 3 days ago - looks great.

I pollenated another today on same plant which is 15 ft out and has 5 lobes. What would be better keep in heavy hitters eyes?

12 ft, 4 lobes, 3 days older than,

15 ft, 5 lobes.

I would be interested to hear this banter by Wallaces, Pukos, Checkon, Don Young, Andy WOlf, etc...

7/1/2008 5:49:41 PM

Doug14

Minnesota([email protected])

Good questions. I maybe mistaken, but for me, it seems the keeper usually shows itself, by growing considerably better than the others. I don't know if this is usually the case, but seems to be for me.

7/1/2008 6:12:22 PM

don young

my opinion we all know last of june first of july is time frame to pollinate-how far out depends on how you pattern plant im trying for 12-15 out with 600-650 sq foot ahead of pumpkin

7/1/2008 6:25:48 PM

ghopson

Denver, CO

If you are trying to break the world record, you are out of luck in either case. Polination to close to the stump means not enough plant behind the pumpkin to push it early on in its growth. Polination farther out on the vine solves this problem. BUT of course doing so means you dont have enough days of "optimum" weather to get the pounds you need. There is no way around the 12 foot July 4th dates in my opinion to get a world record type pumpkin.

That said, a very large (1200, 1300 or more) pumpkin can be had by doing either of the above, waiting 10 or 20 days past the 4th, OR Polinating closer in to the stump.

I have been compiling research to show what is best, and though this could change, early on it appears that pollination early on a shorter vine is better then later on a longer vine.

7/1/2008 11:32:08 PM

shaker

Colorado Springs.Co

I like your spunk ghopson, I don't have the funds to compete with the big boys and gals (knowledge is not being disregarded) when I go fishing it doesn't matter if I catch anything, I'm doing what makes me happy. However the son of a bitch better give up 500 lbs,lol

7/2/2008 1:50:20 AM

Pennsylvania Rock

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I dont understand how I am "out of luck". I pollenated the frist one (12 ft out) on the 28th of June, and the second one (15 ft out) on the 1st of July. Both are at, or past, the 12 ft mark, and plenty early of the 4th of July set date. I would love to see your data you are collecting on pollenations. When, and how far out, does one have to be in your calculations to set a world record?

7/2/2008 7:30:01 AM

Dave & Carol

Team Munson

Rock,
In my humble opinion the 5 lober at 15' would be my choice as long as it was a nice symmetric 5 lober. I also feel if you can get one before 7/7 there is more than an adequate chance to set a world record. Joe Jutras grew his WR in 86 days, given the right weather there will be more than enough time to get that WR. Averages and tendencies are great guide lines but there are always exceptions to the rules. I know a guy that pollinated on 7/18 and set the WR that fall.

7/2/2008 8:51:13 AM

Pennsylvania Rock

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Thx for the input Dave, does his last name rhyme with Belts?

7/2/2008 12:34:50 PM

Dave & Carol

Team Munson


LOL - yes it does

7/2/2008 1:00:14 PM

ghopson

Denver, CO

I am not saying it's not possible, just that it does not appear from the data being collected on AGGC site that pumpkins which are set past the 4th of July can reach the 1500lb mark. There are always excpetions, Stelts is a great example as are a few others.

As always, i dont think it is ever wise to turn somthing fun like growing into a bunch of number crunching. Just have fun and grow as big as you can. I just wanted to answer the orginal question you asked, time versus distance.

7/5/2008 12:47:30 PM

ghopson

Denver, CO

By the way, the 28th of June at 12ft out is an almost perfect set for a world record type pumpkin. The 15 ft on the 1st would appear from the early data to be an even better choice. So maybe I am not sure what you were asking to begin with. Sorry if I misunderstood your question. I was thinking in reagards to the 4th of JUly date, and not a non-date specific comparision.


7/5/2008 12:52:23 PM

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