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maine USA

I have a plant that is beginning to flat vine. Other than that it is a beautiful healthy plant which is just about to vine. Option 1 keep the plant in the ground, hope that it splits and I can cut off one of the vines. 2 I have another nice cross still in the pot which could replace this plant. But I am sure that it is pot bound. 3. I have a nice looking backup, that is in the ground, not in the greatest soil. I could move it, but that would mean that I could damage the vine and that I will cut roots. 4 I could just hope the 2 backups that don't look so great, can recover from whatever their issue is and grow into the flat vine plants' space. Could you please tell me why you chose the option that you selected. thanks Kathy

6/10/2008 1:32:41 PM

Litchfield N. H. 03052

Try puting 5-8 gallons of water at the stump. Add slowly so it will not run off, 90% of the time the plant will straiten out. works for me meany times... Bill

6/10/2008 1:42:29 PM

Pembroke, New Hampshire

Worked for me this year as well- thanks Bill.

6/10/2008 2:28:21 PM

San Diego

If your plant doesn't straighten out, I would take your other good cross in poor soil and transplant it to the good spot. Dig up as much soil as possible if you do this. Give it some tlc for a week and it will be ok. I did an extreme transplant one year with a plant that was already 4 feet long on the main and it survived the move. Took some time for it to come back but it grew a nice fruit and was a normal healthy big plant. Tough decision, hope it works out for you, Jimmy

6/10/2008 2:52:39 PM

Waquoit Mass

take your potted back up and plant it next to the flat viner then go from there

6/10/2008 2:59:09 PM

Newton. KS

Top voices suggested to me that You cut off main to the first secondary. Let secondary become the main.

6/10/2008 3:14:04 PM

Minnesota([email protected])

Kathy,
I have a plant that doubled at one node(two leaves and a flat looking vine), the next node and section of vine look normal(one leaf and round vine). It's not lying down yet, but should soon.
I did water heavily with an overhead sprinkler....I don't know if it was a coincidence, or if the water did the trick. Bill is an experienced grower....I'd seriously consider his suggestion.

6/10/2008 10:43:12 PM

No Place Special

My 1370 last year was a double vine that wouldnt split. I ended up terminating the main and trained a normal side vine as a new main. I ended up with a new personal best of 1176. I say if it dont come out of it then train a secondary and dont sweat it.

6/10/2008 11:11:36 PM

maine USA

Thanks guys for the opinions. I have tried the water trick. Hopefully it will help. If it doesn't I will try using one of the secondaries. If I need to resort to using a secondary, will it be necessary to cut more than just the growing tip on the main? I would seem like all of the leaves that are currently on the plant could be useful. Also, if I don't cut the plant all the way back, would other secondaries that grow off what is left of the main be considered tertiary vines, that should be removed?
I have planted my backup in an out of the way place, where it can grow into the space of my flat vine in the event that it becomes necessary to remove the plant. thanks again, Kathy

6/11/2008 2:28:26 PM

Bristol, ME ([email protected])

For what it's worth Kathy, the 955 Brinkley last year went flat 2 weeks out, the vine split wide open 18" out, had water in it all season with algae and mosquitoes, oh yeah and it grew the 1266 DMG. Flats are workable and can grow decent fruit, it just takes persistance and patience, and you need to go about things a little different than normal.

6/11/2008 9:55:43 PM