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Frankfort Oh

how do you feel about a round up ,weed controll spraying on weeds before planting??does it affect the soil? ,or can I spray?would really like some good imput on this subject.I`m growing in a old cow lot ,and the weeds are allready starting to come up,,,,,thanks Rob

4/11/2008 7:33:04 PM

Paradise Mountain, New York

http://www.geocities.com/RainForest/Canopy/3588/roundup.html
Here is a great article for you to read on the use of Roundup

4/11/2008 8:06:31 PM

Picton,ON ([email protected])

hmmm...interesting article...the first few paragraphs are very factual. The author then breaks off into conspiracy theory, fear mongering and paranoia. The fact is, the product is very safe. It has been in use for almost 30 years and is used an almost every acre of crop production in the western world (with the exception of organic acreage). The product is registered to be sprayed as a preharvest burn down on edible beans, wheat and alfalfa used in milk production.

As far as safety, as long as you can prevent drift to off target crops i.e. giant pumpkin plants, it is very effective way to help manage weeds. Many heavy hitters are using one or more applications of Roundup during the season to knock down weed flushes.

I have read studies that show microbial activity in the soil actually increases after Roundup applications.

There is currently new evidence to suggest that long term use of Roundup will tie up manganese in the soil. We are now seeing manganese deficiency in crops with a much higher soil test level. I’m not sure if this means anything to us pumpkin people or not!

4/11/2008 9:02:19 PM

South Bloomfield, Ohio

Rob,

Spraying Roundup will not affect your plants provided you don't get it on them. Go ahead and spray your weeds just before planting.

Roundup is ineffective as a residual....once it contacts soil, it is completely ineffective as a weed killer.

Roundup's level of toxicity( oral LD 50 value...that amount required to kill 50% of a test population) is also lower than that of aspirin and many other common consumables. One would have to ingest 22 quarts of Roundup to stand a 50-50 chance of dying from it.

Roundup(the isopropylamine salt of glyphosate)is arguably the most effective and safest herbicide ever invented. There are several generic equivalents. Just look for glyphosate as the active ingredient.

4/11/2008 9:05:12 PM

South Bloomfield, Ohio

As a side note, I used it last year within my plants(beneath the foliage) at a rate of one ounce per gallon of water, with no adverse affect on the plants. The normal rate is 3-4 oz. per gallon of water. It took some time before the weeds eventually died.

I did an experiment with Roundup at the recommended rate on a plant which was not producing a couple of years ago. I applied it to the outer fringes of the secondary vines about 6 leaves inward in late July. It killed what it was applied to without any visible affects on the rest of the plant.

As a disclaimer, unless you know what you are doing, I am not recommending my practices to anyone. I don't want to be blamed for any accidents.....lol

4/11/2008 9:15:18 PM

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We spray Roundup before tilling, after tilling & even after the plants run (very carefully). We keep the fences clear the same way. There is NO SOIL RESIDUAL from Roundup so there is no worries other than drift.

4/11/2008 10:31:53 PM

Georgia

Yep spray it all you want...a backpack sprayer and round ups my lawn mower. It does not affect the soil it has to come in contact with weeds. Dont worry about it just watch the drift.

4/12/2008 9:57:36 AM

Frankfort Oh

INTERESTING ,THANKS JOE ,,,AND EVERYONE,,WHO REPLYED ,,jUST WANTED SOME GOOD IMPUT ABOUT THE ROUNDUP,,DONT WANT TO MAKE NO MISSTAKES THIS YEAR,,,,,YOU KNOW WHAT THEY SAY ? IF YOU GOT A QUESTION ,,YOU BETTER ASK ,,BEFORE IT`S TO LATE!! SO I GUESS I`LL BE ROUND UPING ,,,HAA HOO,,,SAY GOOD BY WEEDS !!

4/12/2008 11:31:00 AM

In 2006 Ron and Dick Wallace used Roundup on their patch 2-5 days befor plants got to big for green houses. Ron said it did pretty good in the Backyard Giants book. If you see Ultra Kill get it, it is twice as good as roundup and you can plant four days after you spray. good luck

4/12/2008 3:32:03 PM

Darfield, British Columbia, Canada

Roundup works great. We use it around the farm alot but be carefull because it kills trees very fast as well and the ones that it does not kill will be very messed up because roundup is basically a plant steriod that makes it grow so fast that the cells rupture.

4/12/2008 7:44:02 PM