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Altitude (to)maters (Scott)

Colorado

California Pumpkin Growers
Saturday, January 4, 2025 – 8:00 p.m. EST

LOT 1: STARTING WITH ORANGE: -- 30
1535.5 Beane 2024 2098 Bassett x self
1416 Young 2024 1503 Young x 839 Sandercock
1170 Engel 2023 1461 Rodebaugh x 840 Engel 2 seeds
1107 Dawson 2023 2350 Gienger x self (grew 1033 Pagano-orange)
646 Shuck 2023 899 McWilliams x self (grew 914.5 Young, 508 Tabacsko-both orange)

LOT 2: JACK’S BEST TOMATO LOT EVER!!!! Jack personally picked these as the best of his seeds! -- 65
10.46 La Rue 2023 7.94 La Rue x open 6 seeds pp
9.44 La Rue 2020 9.65 Marley x open 5 seeds pp
9.09 La Rue 2021 5.08 La Rue x open 5 seeds pp
8.83 La Rue 2020 5.62 La Rue x open 5 seeds pp
6.02 La Rue 2024 5.71 Marley x open 5 seeds pp
10.46 9.44

LOT 3: SUPER MIXED VEGGIES LOT -- 35
6.28 Jolivette Tomato 2024 7.83 Sjodin x open 5 seeds pp
414 Trombley BG 2024 313 Trombley x self 6 seeds pp
84.9 Chambers BNT SQ 2023 56 Ruthruff x open 5 seeds pp-- CA record
146 Williams LG 2024 124.5 Williams x 159 Jutras 3 seeds pp
242.6 Rodebaugh WM 2024 267.8 Vial x self 5 seeds pp
166 Yohe FP 2024 75 Yohe x SIB 2 seeds pp
120.5 Tobeck marrow 2024 235.9 Baggs x SIB 3 seeds pp

LOT 4: STEVE SPERRY ASSORTMENT (2 SETS) -- 35 35
2237.5 Sperry 2024 2198 Sperry x 2465.5 Sperry
1864 Sperry 2024 2447 Cutrupi x 2465.5 Sperry (great genetics)
1904.5 Sperry 2022 1885.5 Werner x 2520 Schmit (great genetics again)
1806 Sperry 2018 1970.5 Sperry x 2362 Holland (proven seed)
2237.5 1864 1904.5 1806

LOT 5: CALEB JACOBUS’ PROVEN WINNER -- 155 150
1727 Jacobus 2022 2702.9 Cutrupi x 2520 Schmit--Grew 2639.4 Paton, 2420
Mathiowetz,2419 Jacobus, 2158.3 Paton, 1977 Ford

LOT 6: PROVEN ORANGE PRODUCERS: -- 95
2416.5 Haist 2018 2003 Haist x 1742 Wallace
2266 Kisamore 2023 2365 Wolf x 2147.5 Sippel
1864 Toboyek 2023 1977.5 Rea x 2006 Wolf

LOT 7: DOC’S MOTHER-DAUGHTER BEST: -- 45
1965.5 Rodebaugh 2021 1342 Burchette x 2350 Gienger
2206.1 Rodebaugh 2024 1965.

1/4/2025 8:40:00 PM

Altitude (to)maters (Scott)

Colorado

LOT 8: 2024 CALIFORNIA GROWN (2 SETS): TOO MANY SEEDS FOR PHOTOS! -- 80 75
2465 Dawson 2024 2560 Gienger x 2006 Wol
1986 Urena DMG 2024 1940 Urena x 2365 Wolf
1991 Thomson 2024 2425 Daletas x 1792 Thomson
1967 Frias 2024 2560 Gienger x 2356 Mendi
1950 Leonard 2024 2560 Gienger x 2497 Root/Kennedy
1592 Marden 2024 2497 Root/Kennedy x 2266 Kisamore
1520 Suehowicz 2024 2222 Gienger x self
1369 B. Werner 2024 2183.7 Mendi x 1679 Werner
1338 Wilson 2024 2164 Stelts x self 2465

LOT 9: A FEW OF DAVE STELTS’ 2024 SEEDS (MOST CONSISTENT GROWER IN THE WORLD!) -- 95
2531 Stelts 2024 2376 Stelts x 2344 Wallace
2464 Stelts 2024 2365 Wolf x 2376 Stelts
2381 Stelts 2024 2266 Kisamore x 2143 Stelts 2531
2464 2381

LOT 10: 2024 HEAVY HOWARD DILL WINNERS: -- 100
2342.5 Andrusz 2024 2554 Andrusz x 1975 Fleser World Pumpkin Weighoff
2158 Paton 2024 1727 Jacobus x 2907 Paton DMG Spain Weighoff
1976 New 2024 1783 New x 2006 Wolf Jareds Weighoff
1727 Nelson 2024 1917 Wolf x 2266 Kisamore Saratoga Weighoff

LOT 11: DALE MARSHALL ALASKA’S BEST (AND MAYBE ONLY!): -- 40
2035 Marshall 2024 2023.5 Marshall x 2147 Marshall 2 seeds
2023.5 Marshall 2023 2147 Marshall x 1885 Werner 2 seeds
1878.5 Marshall 2023 1885 Werner x 2147 Marshall
2147 Marshall 2022 2183 Mendi x 2365 Wolf (Grew 2457 LeBlanc, 2023.5 Marshall)

LOT 12: 2,000 LB LOT ALL WITH GREAT GENETICS: (2 SETS) -- 30 20
2301 Pugh 2024 2560 Gienger x 2501 Bernstrom
2260 Isabelle 2024 1683 Geddes x self
2201 Trombley 2024 2042 Kisamore x 2501 Bernstrom (2 seeds)
2189 Laub 2024 2222 Gienger x 1940 Urena

LOT 13: INCREDIBLE ‘MATERS: -- 60
9.44 Sutherland 2023 5.95 x 8.61 4 seeds
8.17 Yohe 2024 4.64 Meisner x open 3 seeds
7.91 Trombley 2024 6.48 Young x open 4 seeds
6.91 Gantner 2024 6.33 Gantner x 9.06 Brown 4 seeds
6.28 Jolivette 2024 7.83 Sjodin x open 5 seeds

1/4/2025 9:10:19 PM

Altitude (to)maters (Scott)

Colorado

LOT 14: NICK MCCASLIN WATERMELON -- 100
SPECIAL: (COMES WITH A ONE HOUR CONSULTATION WITH
NICK ABOUT ALL THINGS WATERMELON. LEARN FROM THE BEST!!!)
309.5 Mccaslin 2024 242 Wolf x self 5 seeds
276.2 Mccaslin 2024 276.8 Miller x self 4 seeds
262.2 Mccaslin 2024 309 Mccaslin x self 4 seeds
256 Mccaslin 2024 146.5 Young x self 4 seeds

LOT 15: WESTERN LABORATORIES, INC PUMPKIN SOIL TEST + CONSULTATION WITH CECIL WESTON
(3 SETS) -- 90 85 80
Western Laboratories, Inc. has been generous in donating their special pumpkin soil tests. Along
with the test itself, Cecil Weston, a nationally renowned soil expert, will work with the winning
bidders in interpreting their results and helping you decide exactly what you can do based on the
tests. This is the kind of invaluable information any grower can use but especially those with less
than 5 years’ experience. Thank you to Western Laboratories, Inc and Cecil Weston!!!

LOT 16: QUINN WERNER HEAVY, HEAVY, HEAVY 2024 LOT: -- 100
2369.5 Werner 2024 1865 Werner x 2447.1 Cutrupi +22% H
2297 Werner 2024 1885.5 Werner x 2560 Gienger +6% H

LOT 17: RON WALLACE’S MOTHER-DAUGHTER COMBO: -- 45
2207 Wallace 2024 2344.5 Wallace x 2365 Wolf
2344.5 Wallace 2023 2365 Wolf x 1707 Caspers
2125.5 Wallace 2024 2365 Wolf x 2344.5 Wallace
2207 2344.5

LOT 18: HARD ROCK WEIGHOFF TOP 5: (3 SETS) -- 50 45 40
2453 Sherwood 2024 2069 Stelts x 1620 Pritchard (BIGGEST HD EVER GROWN)
2301 Pugh 2024 2560 Gienger x 2501 Bernstrom
1991 Thomson 2024 2425 Daletas x 1792 Thomson
1950 Leonard 2024 2560 Gienger x 2497 Root/Kennedy
1634 Frias 2024 2560 Gienger x 2356 Mendi
2453 2301 1991 1950 1634

LOT 19: 1461 RODEBAUGH “RUBY” -- 35
1461 Rodebaugh 2022 2350 Progeny cloned—in its two years it has grown/pollinated 12
Howard Dill winners

1/4/2025 9:43:50 PM

Altitude (to)maters (Scott)

Colorado

LOT 20: ANOTHER ROUND OF TOP CALIFORNIA SEEDS (2 SETS) -- 35 30
2497 Root/Kennedy 2023 2560 Gienger x 2554 Andrusz
2465 Dawson 2024 2560 Gienger x 2006 Wolf
1991 Thomson 2024 2425 Daletas x 1792 Thomson
1986 Urena DMG 2024 1940 Urena x 2365 Wolf
1950 Leonard 2024 2560 Gienger x 2497 Root/Kennedy
1940 Thomson 2024 1953 Tobeck x 2425 Daletas
1967 Frias 2024 2560 Gienger x 2356 Mendi

LOT 21: JIM FORD’S 2024 BOULDER (2 SETS) -- 85 80
2551 Ford 2024 2177 Ford x 2042 Kisamore

LOT 22: JIM’S PROVEN BOULDER MAKER -- 170
2177 Ford 2023 1885.5 Werner x 1935 Ford Grew 2551 Ford

LOT 23: ANOTHER OF FORD’S PROVEN MONSTER’S: --65
1935 Ford 2021 2015 Ford x 2283 Barlow/Jacobus
Grew 2147.5 Sippel, 2063 Coyle, 2061 Coyle, 1716 Sippel, 1696 Roethle

LOT 24: STEVE DALETAS (AND GRANDSON) RARE 2024 LOT -- 35
Comes with a one hour telephone consultation with Steve
2387 Daletas 2024 1885 Werner x 1357 Wolf
1938 Daletas 2024 2365 Wolf x 1357 Wolf
1794.5 Wiltermood 2024 1953 Daletas x 1357 Wolf

LOT 25: LEONARDO’S 2024 PERSONAL BEST (WHICH IS SAYING SOMETHING!) -- 30
2390 Urena 2024 2365 Wolf x 2447 Cutrupi

LOT 26: PACIFIC NORTHWEST GROWER’S LOT (2 SETS) -- 50 45
2453 Sherwood 2024 2069 Stelts x 1620 Pritchard (BIGGEST HD EVER GROWN)
2376 Felton 2024 2222 Gienger x 2147 Marshall
2301 Pugh 2024 2560 Gienger x 2501 Bernstrom
2252.5 Chan 2024 2404 Barron x self
2387 Daletas 2024 1885 Werner x 1357 Wolf
1867.5 Holland 2024 2365 Wolf x 2144 Barron
2453 2376 2301 2252.5 2387 1867.5

1/4/2025 10:33:05 PM

Altitude (to)maters (Scott)

Colorado

LOT 27: PETE CASPERS - ANOTHER GREAT YEAR -- 40
1933.5 Caspers 2024 2501 Bernstrom x 1707.5 Caspers
1844.5 Caspers 2024 2025.7 Rodebaugh x 2501 Bernstrom - HD winner
1286 Caspers 2024 1959.5 Anderson x 2025.7 Rodebaugh

LOT 28: 2404 BARRON—DON’S PB BY ALMOST 300 LBS! AND 11% HEAVY! (2 SETS) -- 70 55
2404 Barron 2023 2365 Wolf x SIB Grew 2252.5 Chan, 1982 Lenart, 1871 Miller, 1731
Barron, + pollinated 11 over 1,000 lbs

LOT 29: HALF MOON BAY 2024 TOP 5 -- ONE OF THE BEST LOTS IN THE AUCTION! -- 65
2471 Gienger 2024 2365 Wolf x 2222 Gienger
2465 Dawson 2024 2560 Gienger x 2006 Wolf
2390 Urena 2024 2365 Wolf x 2447 Cutrupi
2387 Daletas 2024 1885 Werner x 1357 Wolf
1682 Thomson2024 1792 Thomson x 1953 Tobeck
2471 2465 2390 2387 1682

LOT 30: GREAT ORANGE OVER 2,000 LBS -- 40
2365.5 Lopresti 2024 2080 Lopresti x sib
2260 Isabelle 2024 1683 Geddes x self
2206.1 Rodebaugh 2024 1965.5 Rodebaugh x 2365 WolF 12% H
2197.8 Nelson 2024 2266 Kisamore x 1917 Wolf 9% H
2190 Bledsoe 2024 2560 Gienger x SIBBED CO State Record
2365.5 2260 2206.1 2197.8 2190

LOT 31: 150 SQ FT CHALLENGE TOP 2 (2 SETS) -- 20
1448 Bongers WR! 2024 1965.5 Rodebaugh x 2287 Sadiq
1296.3 Nicholas (France) 2024 1688 Paton x self

LOT 32: “GODZILLA”—STILL TRAVIS’ BEST HOPE FOR THE 3,000 LB FUTURE -- 75
2222 Gienger 2023 2365 Wolf x 2365 Wolf WR

LOT 33: 2266 KISAMORE (PROVEN ORANGE) (2 SETS) -- 85 85
2266 Kisamore 2023 2365 Wolf x 2147.5 Sippel---
grew 2381 Stelts, 2225.5 Wolf, 2197.8 Nelson, 1885 Rose, 1791 Helberg

LOT 34: MMM- DIRECT FROM TRAVIS—THE MYSTERY SEED (2 SETS) -- 40 35
1783 Gienger DMG 2024 2222 Gienger x 2560 Gienger

[Last edit: 01/05/25 12:24:36 PM]

1/4/2025 10:33:34 PM

Altitude (to)maters (Scott)

Colorado

LOT 35: 2350 GIENGER “TIGER KING”---NORTH AMERICA’S LARGEST --95
2350 Gienger 2020 1501 VanderWielen x self HMB winner
Everything grown from this seed has been great orange!
2078 Skinner, 2003 Kisamore, 1883 Bayuk, 1846.5 Qualley,
1676 New, 1643 New, 1634.5 Rea…28 over 1,000lbs.

LOT 36: ONE OF THE BEST ORANGE PRODUCERS -- 140
1501 VanderWielen 2017 2004 VanderWielen x 2145 McMullen
Grew 2350 Gienger, 2271 VanderWielen, 2152 Gantner + 37 more
over 1,000 lbs. ALL VERY ORANGE!

LOT 37: ANDRUSZ’ ASSORTED WEIGHTS (2 SETS): -- 55 50
2342.5 Andrusz 2024 2554 Andrusz x 1975.5 Fleser
2251 Andrusz 2023 2405 Gunstrom x 2365 Wolf
2245.5 Andrusz 2023 2365 Wolf x 2554 Andrusz
2023 Andrusz 2023 2554 Andrusz x 2365 Wolf

LOT 38: ANDRUSZ’ BEST 2554: -- 135
2554 Andrusz 2022 2365 Wolf x 1885.5 Werner
Grew 2342.5 Andrusz, 2074 Keenan, 1862 Neptune

LOT 39: 2560 GIENGER “MAVERICK” -- 275
2560 Gienger 2022 1885.5 Werner x SIB –
Grew 2557.4 VanGeel, 2501 Bernstrom, 2497 Root/Kennedy, 2465
Dawson, 2301 Pugh, 2237 Klema/Solberg, 2190 Bledsoe, 2083 Bledsoe,
2021 Hoornstra, 2014.5 Leonzi, 2007 Morse, + 13 more over 1,500 lbs
and 15 MORE over 1,000 lbs. WHEW! What a seed!

LOT 40: TWO OLDER MIGHTY MITES THAT PRODUCE BIG RESULTS -- NS
805 Mendi 2022 1885.5 Werner x 2183.7 Mendi—grew 1603 Jones,
DeWever, 1026.3 Mendi
326 Ritter 2021 2200 Geddes x 1501 VanderWielen – grew 2359 Geddes, 1099 Strickler

1/4/2025 11:21:06 PM

Altitude (to)maters (Scott)

Colorado

LOT 41: 4 OLDER SEEDS WITH GENETICS OF THE DAY! -- NS
1264 Kline 2009 1161 Rodonis x 1385 Jutras (1161 Rodonis grew 14 over 1,500 lbs)
791 Pukos 2009 1255 Van Kooten x 1161 Rodonis (more Rodonis’ genes)
1160 Ciliberto 2014 2009 Wallace x self (2009 was 1st over 2,000 lbs—grew 7 over 2K, 39 over
1500 lbs)
2002 Hawkley 2014 1894 Mathison x 2032 Mathison (Grew 15 over 1,000 lbs)

LOT 42: MORE HOWARD DILL WINNERS! -- 50
1727 Nelson 2024 1917 Wolf x 2266 Kisamore Saratoga HD
1424.5 Montsma 2024 2360 Montsma x 2554 Andrusz Cedarburg HD 2 seeds
1308 Gibson 2024 2360 Montsma x 2222 Gienger Nowthen HD
1073 McLain 2024 956 McLain x self Elk Grove HD
799 Grubbs 2024 2023 Andrusz x 2350 Gienger Ft. Collins HD 2 seeds

LOT 43: CALEB JACOBUS’ BEST YEAR!: -- 35
2419 Jacobus 2024 1727 Jacobus x sib
2357 Jacobus 2024 1727 Jacobus x sib
2210 Jacobus 2022 2520 Schmit x 2702 Cutrupi

LOT 44: DAN YOUNG ASSORTMENT--ALL THE WAY FROM ENGLAND -- 40
144.2 Young MARROW 2024 253.5 Baggs x self
214.3 Young FIELD PUMPKIN 2024 191 Kapelari x 151 Young (5th lgst ever) 2 seeds 15% H
136.7 Young FIELD PUMPKIN 2024 151 Young x 147 Ruthruff 2 seeds 17% H
701.2 Young AG 2024 2360 Montsma x 1931 Turner

LOT 45: 1875 MENDI (VERY PROVEN SEED!!!) -- 30
1875 Mendi 2017 2145 McMullen x self
Grew 2593.7 Paton, 2433.9 Paton, 2014.6 Paton, 1959.5 Daletas + 12
more over 1,000 lbs.

LOT 46: ORANGE HEAVYWEIGHTS WITH GREAT GENETIC POTENTIAL: -- 35
2084 Bassett 2024 2610 Petrelli x 2480 Graham
1977 Ford 2024 1727 Jacobus x 2177 Ford
1955.5 Connolly 2024 2465 Sperry x 2222 Gienger
1871 Miller, T 2024 2404 Barron x self
1586 Aiello 2024 2245 Andrusz x 2360 Montsma

1/4/2025 11:21:41 PM

Altitude (to)maters (Scott)

Colorado

LOT 47: CHARLIE BERNSTROM’S INCREDIBLE 2501 + 2024 CROP: -- 35
2501 Bernstrom 2023 2560 Gienger x 1989.5 Conway
(Grew 2250 Schmit, 2250 Pugh, 2211 Connolly, 2070.5 Bernstrom,
1933.5 Caspers, 1904 Sexton + 10 more over 1,000 lbs)
2080 Bernstrom 2024 2365 Wolf x 2501 Bernstrom
2070.5 Bernstrom 2024 2501 Bernstrom x 2749 Gienger
2004 Bernstrom 2024 2749 Gienger x 2501 Bernstrom

LOT 48: 2319.3 STOECKL---HOWARD DILL WINNER -- 85
2319 Stoeckl 2023 2365 Wolf x self
Grew 2460 Olsen, 2460 Holst, 1840.6 Wuersching
all very orange!!!

LOT 49: DON BARRON’S INCREDIBLE PRODUCERS (2 SETS) -- 170 155
2144 Barron 2022 2183.7 Mendi x 1885 Werner –Grew 2731.5 Stelts, 2315 Zappa,
2283 Trombley, 2210 Johnson, 2033.5 Holland

LOT 50: HOTTEST SPERRY SEED OF 2024 (2 SETS) -- 175 170
2465.5 Sperry 2023 2365 Wolf x 1832.5 Graham (grew 2670 Thompson, 2032 Scott,
1955.5 Connolly, 1911 Adkins)

LOT 51: 2453 SHERWOOD – LARGEST HOWARD DILL EVER GROWN (3 sets) -- 50 45 45
2453 Sherwood 2024 2069 Stelts x 1620 Pritchard Hard Rock Howard Dill Winner

LOT 52: 2457 LeBLANC (MOTHER-FATHER & DAUGHTER) -- 100
2457 LeBlanc 2024 2147 Marshall x 2222 Gienger
2147 Marshall 2022 2183 Mendi x 2365 Wolf
2222 Gienger 2023 2365 Wolf x 2365 Wolf WR

Special Lot 1: -- 85
2670 Thompson 2024 (2465.5 Sperry x 2560 Gienger) 13% heavy

LOT 53: TRAVIS’ WORLD RECORD (2 SETS) -- 140 135
2749 Gienger 2023 2365 Wolf x 2365 Wolf WR

LOT 54: CUTRUPI’S GIANT MAKER : -- 60
2447.1 Cutrupi 2022 1885 Werner x 2096.5 Barron
Grew 2610.3 Petrelli, 2113 Kisamore + 14 more over 1,000 lbs

1/4/2025 11:24:02 PM

Altitude (to)maters (Scott)

Colorado

LOT 55: PATON BROTHERS’ GREAT YEAR!!! -- 90
2641 Paton 2024 2020 Paton x 1727 Jacobus
2639.4 Paton 2024 1727 Jacobus x 2907 Paton clone
2257 Paton UOW 2024 2365 Wolf x 1727 Jacobus
2158 Paton 2024 1727 Jacobus x 2907 Paton

LOT 56: DAVE STELTS’ “ALMOST” WORLD RECORD -- 120
2731 Stelts 2024 2144 Barron x 2143 Stelts +18% HEAVY

LOT 57: 2183.7 MENDI –RECEIVED DIRECT FROM RUBEN -- 150
(ONE OF THE MOST PROVEN SEEDS STILL AROUND!)
2183.7 Mendi 2019 1911 Urena x 2469 Daletas

LOT 58: AND NOW, THE GRAND FINALE: -- NS
2365 Wolf 2021 1885.5 Werner x 2174 Daletas
What more needs to be said? Not many still available.
Grew 2749, 2554, 2537, 2493, 2471, 2465.5, 2464, 2404, 2390, 2359.5, 2344.5, 2319.3, 2266,
2234.5, 2226.5, 2222, 2198.5, 2143, 2137.5, 2131, 2125.5, 2117.5, 2108.7, 2097, 2080, 2054,
2020, 2018, 2006, 2001 + 9 more over 1,900 lbs & 9 more over 1,800 lbs.
THIS IS TRULY THE BEST PRODUCING SEED EVER!!!

1/4/2025 11:39:05 PM

Little Ketchup

Grittyville, WA

I thought you bid $20 for the wolf seed Scott, what happened there? I didnt read nuthin about a "reserve"... I think they owe you a seed! :)

1/4/2025 11:50:38 PM

Altitude (to)maters (Scott)

Colorado

Right! :) Its ok I'm a tomato guy.

[Last edit: 01/04/25 11:59:04 PM]

1/4/2025 11:58:19 PM

Little Ketchup

Grittyville, WA

Maybe they could re-auction it tomorrow at 4:55 pm prior to the southern growers auction. Fund some prizes for the FFA kids. Just an idea.

1/5/2025 12:02:33 AM

rsmidkiff

Beaver WV

Why was there a No Sale on the last lot 58 Wolf seed?

1/5/2025 10:58:19 AM

CJTUCCIO

Danbury, CT

Results for Lot #28 are incorrect. The same grower bid 60, then 70. But took only 1 set for that lot.

I bid $55 and won the second set. The results should show, $70,$55.

1/5/2025 11:42:05 AM

Altitude (to)maters (Scott)

Colorado

cool. Its fixed. I'm surprised there are not a few more errors after four to six+ hours in front of the screen staring at the numbers. lol

1/5/2025 12:28:19 PM

CJTUCCIO

Danbury, CT

No worries - it's yeoman's work. I appreciate all your efforts.

I hope they throw a few seeds your way!!

1/5/2025 1:34:18 PM

NDV

Ontario

Wait did the 2365 actually not get sold?

1/5/2025 2:03:52 PM

Howard

Nova Scotia

Hard to say why it's listed with "NS"? Does seem odd especially that seed!!! Guess only those who were participating might know?

1/5/2025 2:23:41 PM

Brady Bunch

Neither Here Nor There

They put a reserve on it that they didn't advertise. Not sure what the reserve was, but the last bid was over $900.

1/5/2025 2:31:53 PM

Alakazamm

Laurentian Trench

Are clubs buying seeds and reselling to create reserve conditions? Are most growers under the assumption they are buying a seed in auction that is direct from the grower? May be good time for clubs to add to the rules if all seeds are 'grower direct' or have been moved through a dozen hands and are now 'street seeds'. There was some upset bidders at the end of this auction. Bidders told to bid faster and a 'timer' was announced in some lots that caught people off guard, one bidders feeling it was unfair. Auctioneer said to email them privately for details on the reserve lot. A note was posted that it was a reserve lot just before the lot was posted for bidding.

[Last edit: 01/05/25 3:33:09 PM]

1/5/2025 3:30:28 PM

Little Ketchup

Grittyville, WA

I think Andy said he was basically out of those so for the most part I dont think direct from the grower is an option at this point. But normally it would be good if the seeds didnt trade hands too much prior to being auctioned.

[Last edit: 01/05/25 7:54:08 PM]

1/5/2025 7:53:40 PM

Hard Rock Host

Penryn California

Here’s the answer to the 2365 Wolf. The club acquired the seed from a very reputable grower for $1,000. The first auction this year of a 2365 saw it sell for $1525. Part of the reason we do auctions as clubs is to raise money for our weighoffs. Then the next few 2365 seeds sold at or less than $1,000. So we set a reserve at $1,000 so we didn’t lose money on the seed. The highest bid was $900 so it was a “no sale”. After the auction a grower stepped up with an offer substantially over the reserve so we sold the seed. We realize we likely could have handled it better by just stating what the seed cost was and starting the bidding at $1,000. Maybe that still would have caused criticism but it might have been a more open way of dealing with our issues. Our apologies for anyone’s angst over this. It’s more than challenging to put a weighoff, raise prize money, solicit seeds, prepare auctions and club meetings so feel free to volunteer with any club to assist in these tasks to assist those of us doing these things.

1/5/2025 9:20:00 PM

pumpkinpal2

Syracuse, NY

Clubs get seeds from growers for basically free.
If a club gets one at a price undisclosed and sells it to make a profit FOR the club, what's the difference? If one didn't have the reserve $$$, there were other seeds, and there are other auctions. I don't recall Proxy bids having to be disclosed in-amount; I liked the idea, though, of 'Hey, here's the starting bid'. Imagine also the 'Pre-Bidding' on a 2365...eg

[Last edit: 01/06/25 12:51:44 AM]

1/5/2025 11:40:22 PM

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