If you live around MN and are interested in some nice genetic, free mater plants let me know - I planted about 30 and will only grow about 10 maybe ....I have the 5.30, 6.88, 8.41 Maccoys...7.10 foss, ...6.03 Steil, ...5.59, 4.63, 5.22 QTip, ...4.94,5.58 porkchop, 2.45 may ...send me an email if you're interested